and the second thing is, policy particularly president's healthcare policy, are already on the road to closing our deficit. to narrowing it and making it smaller because it is going to affect healthcare cost. >> no doubt about it. e.j., when you alluded to that in your column -- i want it read e.j. to e.j. republicans want it place as much distance between themselves and the 2012 election as they possibly can. from their perspective, the more months we put away on these dumb fake emergencies, the better. as obama's clout slowly dimirnishes, so will his opportunities to pret his priorities. there is always a little personal interaction here, e.j. >> i think is personal, and i also think it has to do with policy and ideas. because every moment we spend -- we're sitting here talking about this fake crises, and it is a fake crisis, when we aught to be talking about other things. like how do we get people back to work, raise equality, upward mobility. i think part of what is going on here is that if we go through with these cuts, we are going to pull money out of the economy at a moment whe